- You joined the Main Room. ( 7:08 PM ) - - Your chat permission has been enabled. ( 7:08 PM ) - tichure 7:05 PM 213 - isarias623 1 joined the Main Room. ( 7:15 PM ) - tichure 7:12 PM hey how isarias isarias623 1 7:12 PM Hello professor tichure 7:13 PM How can I help you isarias623 1 7:13 PM So I am so sorry but this is the first time I am able to get on the chat. tichure 7:14 PM ok it's not required. This require that you read the archives, but not that you be here. The reason I'm here is to help you, like an office hour 7:14 PM so, how can I help you 7:14 PM isarias623 1 7:14 PM Is there a deadline by when we need to post our presentation? tichure 7:16 PM well understand that the window for making presentations is started. The bottom line is that you can NOT all make a presentation in the last week. There's four per week so you want to choose a spot in the week that still open. I believe only a couple people have posted choices Do you have a topic in mind that you want to cover? 7:17 PM isarias623 1 7:19 PM OKay thank you for the clarity. Is it possible to do the same one I am doing for the paper or does it have to be different? FOr the paper I am doing shutter island. 7:19 PM tichure 7:19 PM different Keep in mind that while the topic for your paper has to be something I've read or seen in order to evaluate whether or not you doing it right, your presentation is something t you are essentially bringing in information with the understanding that most of the people have not seen or read it and therefore you have to give a summary of the story, something I DO NOT want in the paper 7:21 PM isarias623 1 7:24 PM Okay I understand. Then for the presentation I am thinking of doing Sleepy hallow by tim burton. tichure 7:24 PM nice which critical approach? 7:24 PM isarias623 1 7:25 PM I am still thinking about that. Oh i also wanted to ask are we allowed to do formalist is any of the assignments? tichure 7:27 PM i guess. but mythological is better because it has more resources ( books on literary archetypes) but also is more interesting and universal still get symbolism, but more sophisticated 7:27 PM but for presentation if there is a good source on formalist on that work, sure 7:27 PM isarias623 1 7:33 PM SO you recommend mythological approach because I can work with it a lot more tichure 7:34 PM yes library folks have been very helpful creating actual link to mythological resources on the library under LIBGUIDES, specifically for my class 7:34 PM isarias623 1 7:35 PM Awesome. Thank you so much! I will definitely check it out. And also if I have picked my paper topic but want to change it is that possible? I was hoping to do the yellow wallpaper 7:36 PM tichure 7:36 PM also good choice. For this, you need critical perspectives. What do you know about the story 7:36 PM and how are you thinking of analyzing it? 7:36 PM isarias623 1 7:38 PM I know it is about a lady who is suffering from post partum depression. However in those times they did not really know much about it and they end up locking her up in her room thinking it would cure her but instead she goes crazy. tichure 7:39 PM Well obviously, historical criticism would go well with this because you would be explaining who S weir Mitchell is and what the rest cure is and its effect on people and whether or not this work is an accurate portrayal of the same. Obviously also you would look at the author's biography, know that she did not literally go through this exact experience, but get enough information to write about a Marxist analysis as to her intention. There is a work by her called "why I wrote yellow wallpaper" which would be very helpful to this 7:39 PM finally, can you think of a culture that would NOT have any problems with a man walking up his wife in a room that he feels that he wants to do that? A culture in which a man can dictate whether she is sane or insane, able to move or not, and a culture in which she is relegated to very specific roles in society? 7:41 PM A man locking his wife in room 7:42 PM sigh 7:42 PM isarias623 1 7:45 PM hahaha are you trying to get at feminist approach professor? tichure 7:45 PM no That culture was a bad idea 7:45 PM that culture would HATE that idea 7:45 PM but since this is considered a feminist work, I would not want you to do a feminist criticism because then the author's intention and the feminist response is the same discussion 7:46 PM what I'm looking for is a culture that has no what the husband did. Who feels that a woman should be locked up if the husband feel so. Who feels that the man has a right to completely control his wife 7:46 PM isarias623 1 7:49 PM Idk i guess it is the culture that they are apart of in the book tichure 7:50 PM the problem is that I need you to think a little broader and I need to think about a Viewpoint that you can actually find a resource for. can you think of the culture right now in this world today that believes that women are second or third class citizens compared to men? 7:51 PM isarias623 1 7:56 PM Yes I guess some of the latin culture still thinks that tichure 7:56 PM of course in some Arabic cultures, it is the law 7:56 PM they would translate this work differently 7:57 PM they would not see her as a hero 7:57 PM they would see her as defiant and disobedient 7:57 PM isarias623 1 7:58 PM Youre right. So if I do cultural criticism can I talk about both the latin and arabic culture? Or does it have to be one? 7:58 PM tichure 8:02 PM Either or both doesn't matter, but they would be different translations. Different paragraphs. isarias623 1 8:05 PM Awesome, thank you so much for helping me out. I was really lost and now i feel confident to start working towards these two assignments. tichure 8:07 PM great check back in once you started your process and we can infer as to how things are going. I'll be here on Wednesdays. 8:07 PM We can confer 8:08 PM or infer 8:08 PM or defer really 8:08 PM anyway 8:08 PM check back in. See how things are going 8:08 PM isarias623 1 8:08 PM hahah alright professor thank you again!! tichure 8:09 PM yw p00f